Pookeyhead - I am sorry if you found my post upsetting it was meant to be terse, not offensive. After all you were starting to repost about the subject which came across as being quite off hand and personal. The fact you choose to misinterpret my use of metaphors is up to you.
The fact is you asked a question and I answered it.
Regarding me defending the macro case - not at all. You chose the example and I justified it being on the site. My response would have been the same had it been a case by anyone else, staff or not.
As to whether or not it should be there, the answer is yes. It is a part of bit-tech history which has, by their own admission, inspired others and is sometimes linked to by modders around the World. Why break the links just because it is old? Should we delete things from history books because they are old? Or clear out museums of ancient relics? No because they are relevant to the way things are now. They are part of evolution. Sure modding has progressed well beyond the macro case and so it should. It would be a sad state of affairs if it hadn't. There is no need to take it down to make way for newer work. This is a website which is the closest to unlimited storage space there is. There is room for everything.
As for opinions and criticisms being aired on the forums, anyone who knows me will verify that I am one of the biggest advocates for free speech, opinion airing and constructive criticism on these forums. The very fact these posts are here attest to that. should I assume that you object to me airing mine?
Who do you think puts "guest" mods on the site? ME! and it just so happens that there is a mechanism for projects logs to make it onto the main site. All people have to do is contact me for consideration. I will sometimes approach people when I see something suitable but there are too many logs to scrutinise them all in minute detail continuously. We have a forum full of modders and I have an email address plastered all over the site so what's the problem?
As far as I am concerned this matter is finished. You asked a question and it has been answered. I see no need to clutter this thread any more.
Originally Posted by Will With comments referring to the article as 'dead weight', then the statement now that you wonder 'why the hell that particular mod was there', any respect may you have had for Macro wasn't really conveyed in your first post IMHO, which is perhaps why you got the reaction from him that you did.
In my first post was this: "and before anyone says anything, I'm not having a pop at Macro... as that would be silly - he's done some awesome mods"
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Originally Posted by Will ...... seems to show a little lack of knowledge with regards to why exactly it (being fairly unadventerous when you compare it to todays projects), is featured on the site.
I appreciate that. My whole point was, no matter how relevant it was at the time... is it now? The "dead weight" remark was referring to the relevance of the article, not it's contents. The mod may have been something to win a comp 4 years ago, but is it now? I can find at least 15 mods in the forums that are truly amazing... none of them are on the front page - I just think it's a shame, particularly when 4 year old stuff is still there.
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Originally Posted by Will I don't see any problem with it remaining myself, despite its age, its hardly like its still being promoted centre stage on the front page in preference to more ambitious and much more recent projects.
Me neither.. per se... I just find it odd that remains, when others are not even featured. If I had any choice in the content on here, I'd be trawling the forums, and pulling every single top notch mod off there, and putting on the front page - after all, that's the first port of call for all those who come across Bit-Tech usually. I just think it should be as eye poppingly amazing as possible. If my comments seemed harsh, I meant no offence to anyone, least of all Macroman. I just think it would be a shame if Bit-Tech rested on it's laurels so to speak, and got lax in featuring new mods (not that it is). A little more urgency in seeking new mods to display can only be a good thing. Why wait for people to submit them? Be pro active!
Macro.. I apologise if my comments were offensive to you or anyone else. That was not my intention. I'm not suggesting you erase history, just be as determined to seek out and publicise new mods as you are celebrating the old. If your webspace is as vast as you say, then all is well.. but Mesa should be featured.. it's a truly wonderful mod.
I think we are all in agreement regarding new material and no offense was taken (or meant). :)
As for being pro active, well I think you would be (pleasantly) surprised at just how pro active I currently am but these things do take time to organise and edit. Since you obviously have a eye for asthetics judging from some of your excellent photographs why not drop me an email with your suggestions? B)
Well it's been a time since I was last regularly here, but I'm back on site now.
This wodden case is an absolutely stunning bit of work. Well done Piloux! That really took some serious dedication and craftsmanship to put together. A well-deserved "feature" on the site.
When I saw Eddie's wood and acrylic case article I seriously wondered about the expansion/contraction rates of the two materials when clamped side by side. There is just no way at all that the effect you (so honestly!) demonstrated could be avoided, so your clever solution just goes to highlihgt your inventiveness. Great! (Did you know for example that the secret of a successful dental filling is in making sure the filling and the tooth have the same expansion rates? Not a lot of people know that...)
Just to add a minor comment about the recent "kerfuffle" concerning what is or is not icluded on Bit-Tech. History books are meant to be kept and read and learned from. My own case is a Lian-Li PC60USB and the minor mods I've done so far have all stemmed from the Macro Case. I'm not new to engineering or model-making, but I *am* new to case modding (well "quality" case modding anyway) so I need my hand holding as I start out. If this site were just full of elitist case mods, unattainable by most of us, then there would be no fresh new talent (like Piloux) rising up and shining through. I even appreciated that first, simplest Rheostat/power molex mod.
Back on topic again, I loved the use of the aluminium mesh for outside detailing (and disguise!) and the carbon fibre. Like a lot of things it's down to what suppliers you can find - usually in totally unrelated crafts.
Can anybody offer advice, for example, on "brushing" sheet aluminium. I guess it's either one-directional sanding, or a wire brush...
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The fact is you asked a question and I answered it.
Regarding me defending the macro case - not at all. You chose the example and I justified it being on the site. My response would have been the same had it been a case by anyone else, staff or not.
As to whether or not it should be there, the answer is yes. It is a part of bit-tech history which has, by their own admission, inspired others and is sometimes linked to by modders around the World. Why break the links just because it is old? Should we delete things from history books because they are old? Or clear out museums of ancient relics? No because they are relevant to the way things are now. They are part of evolution. Sure modding has progressed well beyond the macro case and so it should. It would be a sad state of affairs if it hadn't. There is no need to take it down to make way for newer work. This is a website which is the closest to unlimited storage space there is. There is room for everything.
As for opinions and criticisms being aired on the forums, anyone who knows me will verify that I am one of the biggest advocates for free speech, opinion airing and constructive criticism on these forums. The very fact these posts are here attest to that. should I assume that you object to me airing mine?
Who do you think puts "guest" mods on the site? ME! and it just so happens that there is a mechanism for projects logs to make it onto the main site. All people have to do is contact me for consideration. I will sometimes approach people when I see something suitable but there are too many logs to scrutinise them all in minute detail continuously. We have a forum full of modders and I have an email address plastered all over the site so what's the problem?
As far as I am concerned this matter is finished. You asked a question and it has been answered. I see no need to clutter this thread any more.
In my first post was this: "and before anyone says anything, I'm not having a pop at Macro... as that would be silly - he's done some awesome mods"
I appreciate that. My whole point was, no matter how relevant it was at the time... is it now? The "dead weight" remark was referring to the relevance of the article, not it's contents. The mod may have been something to win a comp 4 years ago, but is it now? I can find at least 15 mods in the forums that are truly amazing... none of them are on the front page - I just think it's a shame, particularly when 4 year old stuff is still there.
Me neither.. per se... I just find it odd that remains, when others are not even featured. If I had any choice in the content on here, I'd be trawling the forums, and pulling every single top notch mod off there, and putting on the front page - after all, that's the first port of call for all those who come across Bit-Tech usually. I just think it should be as eye poppingly amazing as possible. If my comments seemed harsh, I meant no offence to anyone, least of all Macroman. I just think it would be a shame if Bit-Tech rested on it's laurels so to speak, and got lax in featuring new mods (not that it is). A little more urgency in seeking new mods to display can only be a good thing. Why wait for people to submit them? Be pro active!
Macro.. I apologise if my comments were offensive to you or anyone else. That was not my intention. I'm not suggesting you erase history, just be as determined to seek out and publicise new mods as you are celebrating the old. If your webspace is as vast as you say, then all is well.. but Mesa should be featured.. it's a truly wonderful mod.
... back on topic.
As for being pro active, well I think you would be (pleasantly) surprised at just how pro active I currently am but these things do take time to organise and edit. Since you obviously have a eye for asthetics judging from some of your excellent photographs why not drop me an email with your suggestions? B)
Back on topic...
Well it's been a time since I was last regularly here, but I'm back on site now.
This wodden case is an absolutely stunning bit of work. Well done Piloux! That really took some serious dedication and craftsmanship to put together. A well-deserved "feature" on the site.
When I saw Eddie's wood and acrylic case article I seriously wondered about the expansion/contraction rates of the two materials when clamped side by side. There is just no way at all that the effect you (so honestly!) demonstrated could be avoided, so your clever solution just goes to highlihgt your inventiveness. Great! (Did you know for example that the secret of a successful dental filling is in making sure the filling and the tooth have the same expansion rates? Not a lot of people know that...)
Just to add a minor comment about the recent "kerfuffle" concerning what is or is not icluded on Bit-Tech. History books are meant to be kept and read and learned from. My own case is a Lian-Li PC60USB and the minor mods I've done so far have all stemmed from the Macro Case. I'm not new to engineering or model-making, but I *am* new to case modding (well "quality" case modding anyway) so I need my hand holding as I start out. If this site were just full of elitist case mods, unattainable by most of us, then there would be no fresh new talent (like Piloux) rising up and shining through. I even appreciated that first, simplest Rheostat/power molex mod.
Back on topic again, I loved the use of the aluminium mesh for outside detailing (and disguise!) and the carbon fibre. Like a lot of things it's down to what suppliers you can find - usually in totally unrelated crafts.
Can anybody offer advice, for example, on "brushing" sheet aluminium. I guess it's either one-directional sanding, or a wire brush...
Keep up the good work Piloux!
:D
Candle