45nm AMD die shot - 940 and 920 are available January on desktop.

45nm AMD die shot - 940 and 920 are available January on desktop.

With all this hoo-har about Intel's new CPUs, let's not forget the much needed competition from AMD. Its new 45nm CPUs, codenamed Deneb, are due in January or February on the desktop and Chinese website Expreview has the latest on the new Phenoms.

The first CPUs to arrive, the X4 940 and 920, will be socket AM2+ and DDR2 based and are rumoured to be available from the 8th January at 3.0GHz and 2.8GHz with 6MB of L3 cache - both will be 125W parts. A month later, the rest of the line-up will arrive with complete support for DDR3 - all will be 95W parts and will have a CPU frequencies ranging from 2.5 to 2.8GHz. A 3.0GHz part will follow in Q2.

These DDR3 parts will be differentiated with a - five for the two identical frequency/cache size models, but it gets somewhat confusing for lower specced parts as they don't continue this naming trend, and smaller 4MB cache parts are also changed as they get called 8xx rather than 9xx. The triple core X3 CPUs with the "Heka" die, will be known as 720 and 710 and thankfully the "20" and "10" equate to the same frequency as the X4 parts.

It's hard not to insinuate that AMD has labelled its parts to appear to match Intel's new Core i7's in terms of 940 and 920, which will get ample coverage on launch, but that's as far as it goes as new AM3 parts offer little correlation. Is this confusing for new customers? Most likely. Why can't anyone keep an understandable naming or numbering scheme these days?

New Phenoms to get new naming scheme
Image courtesy of Expreview

On the positive side though, 3GHz quad cores from AMD! Woohoo! And apparently these will also be able to do 4GHz on air which could make them incredibly attractive options. In fact, since most of us are holding off on that Core i7 purchase since there are only super expensive motherboards and expensive triple-channel DDR3 kits available - comparable options from AMD with normal dual channel DDR3 kits and AMD-based motherboards are often a damn sight cheaper.

Back to AMD boys? January/February should make for some interesting times once again if AMD can become competitive once more. What are you considering for your next upgrade? Let us know in the forums!
Quote _DTM2000_ 18th November 2008, 14:17
Excellent news. I hope this will make the market more competitive in 2009 so we get more choice and more aggressive pricing.
I'll certainly be holding off buying any upgrades untill later in 2009 when the prices of Intel and AMD's new products come down in price.
Quote liratheal 18th November 2008, 14:20
I wonder whether the 940 will be supported in the MA790FX..
Quote N19h7m4r3 18th November 2008, 14:20
At the moment the i7 920 can easily break 4GHz on air.

I hope these are competitive. We need some good competition again :)
Quote mrb_no1 18th November 2008, 14:35
nice to see this from amd. i hope they do perform and provide us with a decent option. and N19h7m4r3, we know that intel cores oc well, the c2d range always did but amd has struggled to make a decent oc chip since the athlon xp 2500 or something which was a long time ago, so thats why a decent oc from amd is even more important.

peace

fatman
Quote Kúsař 18th November 2008, 14:35
I hope for some low-clocked black edition Phenom. Cheap & easy to overclock.
Quote pizan 18th November 2008, 14:54
I wonder if my Crosshair will support them. Asus has done a great job so far, it supports all the Phenoms available. I was going to get an i7 in the next few weeks, but i'll wait a bit now I will only save money then.
Quote bowman 18th November 2008, 15:14
Nothing's stopping you from downgrading and using two sticks of DDR3 with Nehalem either. Motherboards will probably stay expensive though.
Quote Aterius Gmork 18th November 2008, 15:21
So the 940 and 920 will support DDR2? Sweet. They'll be more than sufficient for media encoding and gaming, really. And actually affordable. :D

Now if they only would use less that 125W... ouch. :(
Quote C-Sniper 18th November 2008, 16:56
Not liking that TDP for the AM2+ boards =\.

Will probably get one though.
Quote Redbeaver 18th November 2008, 17:01
cant help being giddy, but ill hang on until i see the performance number.....

phenom had a lotta hype and then what? poof......
Quote lewchenko 18th November 2008, 19:44
Well as the core i7 920 is currently about £260 we really need some competition to drive the prices down... this could be it. My last AMD purchase was an X2 4400. Its been that long since they were competitive on the performance playing field.

Just make sure they can overclock like crazy... the tech world has got used to *and expects* a hefty overclock on air. Either that or make them so fast you dont need to overclock them to start off with.
Quote sandys 18th November 2008, 19:48
Quote:
Originally Posted by C-Sniper
Not liking that TDP for the AM2+ boards =\.

Will probably get one though.

Why is that my AM2+ 9950BE is a 140w TDP chip so these are actually lower.
Quote HourBeforeDawn 18th November 2008, 20:41
WOOT awesome news, I have a 9950BE right now but I am soooo upgrading to that Phenom II 3ghz cpu when it comes out. ^__^
Quote SuperNova 18th November 2008, 21:20
It's quiet fun that AMD and Intel now has the same names for two of their cpus ;)
Quote MasterAlex 18th November 2008, 23:24
what is the FSB of these? I take it the AM2+ will be 2000MHz or 5600MT/s again? Or will the AM3 be a lot more since the i7 has a big "front side bus" (or w/e they call it)?
Quote Amon 19th November 2008, 01:12
Will the FX be revived, continuing its old nomenclature?
Quote Goty 19th November 2008, 02:28
The Black Edition processors took over for the FX line of processors, I believe.

As for the HT speed question, AMD is introducing HT 3.0 to the desktop with the AM3 processors.
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